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Post by sean1981 on Feb 3, 2012 10:25:28 GMT
I was just reading the games posting page and noting 'tig' used in this part of the world, I agree, rather than tag.
The Keighley area had an expression, 'real' to mean that it had been good. Like a trip to the coast; how was it? ' It were real'
If you go a little further away, say 10 miles no one uses that word in that way. But I note that other languages do. IE Dutch for a good day out is the same when you translate. I wonder if it is a hang on from old contacts we had with the continent like laiking out and flitting?
John
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Post by fsharpminor on Feb 3, 2012 14:41:16 GMT
That wor reight 'Champion' that wor. On www.kbgs.com has been a discussion about 'progging'. You dont have to go far out of Keighley and it becomes 'chumping' My work colleagues in Horsforth have not heard of 'dubs' for 'puddles' |
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Post by sean1981 on Feb 3, 2012 17:08:36 GMT
I once said to a neighbor, who hailed from Bradford, that this person had 'cafald' meaning not gone through with something, he looked blank and asked what I meant.
It's also like being 'nauped' instead of being hit. That was an expression used in Haworth but not sure how far we need to go to find it means nothing.
Sorry my spelling of these words leaves something to be desired.
John
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Post by clogger on Feb 3, 2012 20:36:06 GMT
Hi gang, wonder if kids today use any o them words, ok , an i bet its been asked before on here but can anybody tell me whats the diffrence between a SNIKETT an a GINNELL
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 3, 2012 21:08:15 GMT
A ginnel usually has a roof or building over it. Like the one that used to run next to where the clog shop is now in Cross Roads. I think it now has a door on the front end now, or up Main Street, Haworth, there is one going through to where Brandy Row was. I had a walk through there on my last visit a couple of years ago. A snicket runs down from the end of Barcroft to Bocking next to the old fish shop. Just a track with walls either side. That's what I have always believed anyway. Cheers.  |
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 3, 2012 21:18:31 GMT
I once said to a neighbor, who hailed from Bradford, that this person had 'cafald' meaning not gone through with something, he looked blank and asked what I meant. It's also like being 'nauped' instead of being hit. That was an expression used in Haworth but not sure how far we need to go to find it means nothing. Sorry my spelling of these words leaves something to be desired. John On a visit a few years ago we were taken for lunch (dinner) at the Wuthering Heights pub at Stanbury. When I couldn't manage to finish the huge roast meal, the waitress, when she collected my plate, looked at me in disdain and asked me " are you caffling on me?" I knew exactly what she meant but my poor wife, a New Zealander, was completely bemused by this foreign language. Likewise when we visited an old farming friend who uses dialect. She had to ask him to repeat a few words, then as time went on she stopped us again and said" wait a minute, not only I cannot understand John, I can't understand my own husband now!" Without realising it I was replying to him in kind, all the old dialect words from my childhood returning. In my childhood during wartime, all the old people used dialect and without me realising it, it is still tucked away in my memory. Happy days. Cheers.  |
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Post by clogger on Feb 3, 2012 21:26:44 GMT
olld word always used in quarry was THRANG if ya was thrang ya was busy
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Post by clogger on Feb 3, 2012 21:28:27 GMT
an i reckon ya right about snikett and ginnell Bill, takes a Fern to tell us eh haha.
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Post by parkwoodgirl on Feb 3, 2012 21:36:27 GMT
Hi Bill - Firstly, yes, I remember the Atkinsons in Alpha St., and Jim Whitaker was the eldest - he was in my class at school. As for Keighley 'words' I always thought ginnell and snicket meant the same. My grandchildren often tell me I use words they dont understand and I inform them thats because I have Viking ancestors!!!!!! I still call strangers 'offcumdons' a word no-one understands in my part of the country. Regards.......
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Post by barcrofter on Feb 3, 2012 22:20:09 GMT
What about I can't thoil it??
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 4, 2012 1:46:12 GMT
an i reckon ya right about snikett and ginnell Bill, takes a Fern to tell us eh haha. No worries young fella. Anytime!!!!! I'll tell you something else you probably don't know--------- we lived at no 28 before your family did. I think your lot moved in when we moved out. I THINK that you were a baby then. I can't remember if you were born there or not. It was a LONG LONG time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually I think it was 1943. Cheers. ;D |
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Post by clogger on Feb 4, 2012 14:54:47 GMT
hi Paul, i couldn,t thoil to pay that price even if i could afford it eh,
good un, means couldnt bring meself to do a thing ?
Didnt know your lot lived at number 28 Bill, ( i know nowt )
Our crew moved there from Hainworth Shay, Harry Mitchell moved us on a horse an wagon wi our Brenda a babe in me mams arms sat in an ol rocker amongst our bits an pieces ( they would a been bits ) I was born there at 28 an Bill Mitchell an his brother Jack lived there before us as well, maybe before you ?........ did ya know samee ppl who built 28 built Harry Machechnies house on barcroft as well and house down roadside opposite whins wood park was built by same folk ( Baileys )
Alan Barrett use to live there, reel nice big chap he was, he use to have the " one man quarry " up on guide moor before he came to work at gillsons he use to tell me bout him bein in boer war as a lad.
take care . clogger.
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Post by sean1981 on Feb 4, 2012 16:18:16 GMT
I think we do have words that are from our contact with 'Vikings' and other folks from mainland Europe.
An old custom here was for land owners to collect annual rents from tennent farmers and they used a Geld table, a round table that could turn. Rent was placed under the table in a pocket that would be turned round to the manager while the land lord was asking how things were goingt etc. Nice and discreet.
The Dutch word for money is Geld. There must be a connection.
John
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 4, 2012 20:39:55 GMT
hi Paul, i couldn,t thoil to pay that price even if i could afford it eh, good un, means couldnt bring meself to do a thing ? Didnt know your lot lived at number 28 Bill, ( i know nowt ) Our crew moved there from Hainworth Shay, Harry Mitchell moved us on a horse an wagon wi our Brenda a babe in me mams arms sat in an ol rocker amongst our bits an pieces ( they would a been bits ) I was born there at 28 an Bill Mitchell an his brother Jack lived there before us as well, maybe before you ?........ did ya know samee ppl who built 28 built Harry Machechnies house on barcroft as well and house down roadside opposite whins wood park was built by same folk ( Baileys ) Alan Barrett use to live there, reel nice big chap he was, he use to have the " one man quarry " up on guide moor before he came to work at gillsons he use to tell me bout him bein in boer war as a lad. take care . clogger. Yes the Mitchells were before us. Dad worked for them at Lees Moor quarries and Frank and Alice were my godparents. They also had the old garages behind 28, "up t'yard" and I spent many hours there as a youngster at the Mitchells and also Gussy's, Norman Hargreaves, the Speedway rider, and when I was old enough I earned pocket money cleaning his riding leathers. I think it would have been Harry's dad who moved you. I think Harry might have been a bit young. Frank and Harry's dad were the brothers who owned the quarries. Harry lived at the farm up Lees Moor, better known later as Quarry House restaurant, which I think closed in recent times. If you want to look Harry up, he lives in a wonderful historic building, one of the oldest in the Haworth area I believe, Sowden's farm, dating back to the 1600s. It's most famous occupant was the Rev William Grimshaw, the contemporary of John Wesley. I've seen Harry on my last two visits after not seeing him for over 50 years. I was also lucky to catch up with Billy Mitchell on a visit just before he died, thanks to Dennis Bottomley. I wrote about the Mitchells in my memoirs. Talk later. Cheers Bill. |
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 4, 2012 21:05:51 GMT
I remember Harry Mackecknie (sp?) moving into the big house on Barcroft after Mrs Blackburn died. I used to run messages for Mrs Blackburn as she got older and couldn't manage t'owd lane. She was a lovely lady and I'd known her all my life as I lived at 7 Barcroft for the first 5 years of my life before moving into 28 Bingley Rd. Cheers.
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Post by davefnd on Feb 6, 2012 14:16:04 GMT
How about (solong!) see ye later.
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Post by davefnd on Feb 6, 2012 14:18:19 GMT
Did it mean ta ra! Goodbye.
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Post by fsharpminor on Feb 6, 2012 17:05:51 GMT
Toodle pip, or toodle oo.
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Post by eric on Feb 6, 2012 19:49:23 GMT
As kids, we never played out, we allus "Laked" out and the Norwegian word for play is "Lek" (or so I'm told) we have Bairn for babies, while not strictly a local word, the Danish for Baby is "Barn" (or something like) but the word that crops up every June/July is Gala (pronounced Gay-la) if your a Keighlian or Gar - Lar in tha's posh! The word Fettle or to Fettle is from the foundries I'm told, it was to clean up castings from any burrs inside and out. I wonder how far words like Mistle (Cow Byre or Shippon) have spread? or Spanish for Liquorice, are these local words? I always thought Gormless was a traditional Yorkshire word, but apparently it's used the length and breadth of the country, and derives from a Danish King, Gorm the Old who died about 948 ad, when a chronicler described him as lazy and indolent, and another as excessivly stupid, certainly matches a few Gormless erm.... People! I know!
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Post by clogger on Feb 6, 2012 20:40:13 GMT
at home we always used the word " spice " for sweets
Another one me mam always said was " boakaning " for retching, dont know if that was old yorkshire or maybe was Romany.
TTFN.
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Post by sean1981 on Feb 6, 2012 22:44:33 GMT
What about, 'I'm pined daft' for hungry and fair brussen if too full.
John
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Post by clogger on Feb 7, 2012 19:22:03 GMT
and we always used " anent " for next to or alongside.
clogger
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Post by clogger on Feb 10, 2012 19:19:57 GMT
also " agate " , whats agate or whats goinon.
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Post by sean1981 on Feb 10, 2012 20:37:50 GMT
Good one Clogger
I notice we have a few streets called gate; Kirkgate (church street) Briggate (Bridge street) so gate in that sense means 'going' too.
People on the near Continent say the equivalent of 'where's te baan' ? where are you going.
It's all very interesting.
John
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 11, 2012 20:37:43 GMT
There have been a few old Yorkshire words flying around my place this week. My daughter is visiting from Italy with her children and over the last few days I have been trying to teach my 5 year old grand daughter " Ilka moor baht 'at" much to the amusement of my wife who can't understand "Yorkshire" anyway.
What about "Kall hole" or Kalling? (Sp?) It might have already been mentioned but I haven't trawled back through the old posts. If not it will be a test for some! Cheers.
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Post by fsharpminor on Feb 13, 2012 15:52:14 GMT
I never heard of a Kall Hole, but always understood Kalling to be chatting to your neighbour(s) over the garden fence. My wife (from Suffolk/Norfolk borders), calls this 'Mardlin' '
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Post by davefnd on Feb 13, 2012 16:26:04 GMT
Never heard "Shut yer kall hole up" You are talking to much.
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Post by sean1981 on Feb 13, 2012 16:38:45 GMT
We used to say Kalling for chatting. I thought 'shut your cake hole', was the phrase we used.
John
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Post by davefnd on Feb 13, 2012 18:25:16 GMT
Yes Sean, Cake Hole was also used in my time meaning mouth.Kall hole also
alluded to mouth. What about (Kecks) Pull em up or drop em??
(Sithee) (Fair to middling)
Kind regards.
David.
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Post by barcroftlad on Feb 13, 2012 23:26:16 GMT
You are onto it folks. A Kall hole was a shed, a cave, wherever where you chose to meet and Kall. Kalling was just chatting with your mates |
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