s hoyle drinks company

[calton]

I PURCHASED A GREEN GLASS BOTTLE WITH THE WORDS "S HOYLE KEIGHLEY" IN THE GLASS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE WAS A COMPANY MAKING SOFT DRINKS AT INGROW. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYMORE?

[fsharpminor]

Yes , there was indeed a bottler of 'Pop' called S Hoyle. Not quite in Ingrow , but based in Apsley Street, which is just behind and parallel to Queens Rd near where Queens joins South Street. At one time they came round local streets with a horse and cart selling 'Pop' (I lived in nearby Malsis Road.). I remember Lemonade, Limeade, Orangeade, Cherryade, Dandelion and Burdock, American Cream Soda , and Vimto.

[harrier]

I seem to remember that there was a 'pop shop' in Ingrow, near the junction of Hainworth Lane, where I lived, and Hainworth Wood Road. Was the name not Saegars (Sagars?)? I have a vivid memory as a 4 year old climbing the wall in the snicket opposite the factory with my mate Fred. Let me say now my mother was into making tab rugs ... bear with me. I had a light blue herringbone jacket on which was my pride and joy for some reason. Fred and I had been collecting stone chippings fotrm Hainworthwood Road which had just been re tarmaced and covered with lovely slate coloured chippings. Both my pockets were cram full of the things. As we climbed onto the top of the wall where the coping stones were loose (normally no problem for a young agile kid!), we could see into the pop shop yard. Presumably there must have been a school party of boys, smartly dressed in their school blazers, with their school master, looking round the factory. I was too young to understand that, Fred was a bit older. He told me that the man was collecting young boys and would get me if he saw me. I was absolutly terrified. I tried to jump down off the steep wall, but the chippings in my pockets must have thrown me off balance. I fell off the wall taking a couple of coping stones with me, one falling on my leg causing a gash from which gallons of blood seemed to pour. I ran as fast as I could down the lane home. My mother was sitting doing a tab rug. I blurted out my fear of the man collecting boys. I got a clout for being stupid. She then took off my jacket, which she started to rip into lengths as it was just the right colour for the bit of rug she was doing. As the chippings spilled onto the stone slabbed floor, I got another clout for making a mess, and when she spotted the blood on my socks, I got another whallop. Believe it or not, 60 years on I still get nightmares about that bloody pop shop and the man collecting boys!!!

[fsharpminor]

Yes you are quite right, I remember Sagars as well as HoylesThey were possibly also a filler.

[Andy Wade]

And he's still waiting for you, when you least expect it...

Behind you!

[maryb]

My god,I can remember when they were tarmacing that road when I was about 4. so 1953 I lived at Haincliffe road and the smell of the tar I can smell now,I used to play with it before it went solid and get in bother for getting it on my clothes.

I too had a friend Fred Nicholson who was a bit older,he had a sister Wendy and linda.
They called their mum Hilda.
You brought back some good memories, I left haincliffe rd when I was about 5 but still can remember lots of things from those days.

Maryb

[alumpot]

Seem to remember working with sombody called Booth in the late 70's, they lived at the junction of Hainworthwood Road and Haincliffe Road. Her fisrt name was Pauline and they manufactured mineral waters ( pop) wonder if they were part of this family or if in fact they took the business over.

[danewiss]

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[keighleyboy]

The mineral water manufacturer on Hainworth Wood Road went under the name of Shackleton & Sager, at least from the days just after World War 1, when my mother (born 1912 in nearby Walnut Street) played up there as a child. She remembered the glass-alleys in the tops of the bottles. I'm afraid I don't know the history of the founders, but I remember the company under the ownership of Brian Booth and his wife Pauline (nee Thompson).
Brian's father, Ned Booth, was onetime landlord of the Great Northern Inn at Ingrow. I have heard that he used to bring the duck-boards from behind the bar out into the yard, and give 'em a good scrub.

[fsharpminor]

Ah yes, now I too remember Shackleton and Sagar. Whilst we had Hoyles 'pop' in Malsis Road, some friends more Ingrow way had Shackleton and Sagar. I am failry sure they dod a 'pop' that Hoyles didn't. It was called 'Sarsparilla'

[jonprice]

I have an emerald green S. Hoyle codd bottle.



This little half pint bottle was dug on Marley tip in the later part of the 1970s which would point to it having been manufactured during the early 1900s. Although Hoyle codd bottles are quite common in aqua this is the only known green version. Because quite a lot of 'borrowing' of bottles went on between firms (they were refilled and a new paper label added to the front) some firms had bottles made in special colours to deter 'theft' although this was hardly ever done . The most famous example of this is the extremely rare cobalt blue variety from Newcastle.

[Admin]

A brilliant picture Jon, thank you so much for that.

Is this the Jon Price who very kindly sent me lots of information on Eastwood School a couple of years ago?

Thank you for joining our forum.

Jan

[corrinanicholson]

maryb - The Fred Nicholson you described. I think you may be on about my Grandad. He'd older than you and has two younger sisters Wendy and Linda as you described.

[clogger]

I remember Binns,s sweet shop in cross roads selling pop as they all did and the one i remember came in bottles with " golden dawn " on the label.
Was this Sagars or Hoyles ?

[sean1981]

On the subject of small firms providing 'pop' we found bottles with the glass marble type stopper in Haworth. There must have been a small firm at the (then) farm at the top of the park. The name Hyram Hey was on the bottles.

Of course we had a small pick up type waggon came round on Friday with those stone jars of Dandelion and Burdock and Sarsaparrila. Not sure of the name but I think they came from Halifax. Something like Sunlite??

An older person, careful here John your getting there, once said, 'I don't drink the stuff, I say it serves them right that do'. We laughed at that.

John

[treac]

Clogger
Golden Dawn was Hoyle's. As a kid I loved that lemonade but was probably biased as the business was run by family members. Not quite sure how it came to be but I was told my great grandfather had some connection with the Hoyle family and eventually bought them out. My grandmother lived on Queens Road across Apsley St from the somewhat Dickensian works. I think my grandfather ran it for a while before his death in 1937 then I think all members of the family pitched in up to the war. My dad's cousin ran it in the years I knew the 'shop' although I'm not sure that by the 1960/70's it ever made any money.

[rainbow332]

as a kid during school holidays brian booth used to let me go around the pop shop [shackelton and sagers]and if i was luckey he let me go on some of his deliveries [telling my mother beforehand], we lived in morning street , and used to play cricket, drawing the wickets on a garage , hit the ball in the wood and it was six and out and find the ball yourself or we would go and play cricket by the bus stop next to the 'reck,'myself, jeffrey parker, phillip akrigg,and neil rankin .My mum Emily Kitson , and Hilda Nicholson were always at one anothers houses ,fond memories

[joycen]

I'm sure by the late 60's/early 70's also bottled beer. I can remember going there with my friend, who lived on Catherine St, for bottles of "stout" for her mum. Her mum was anaemic and a bottle a day was recommended by her doctor for being rich in iron??? Can also remember my gran drinking a bottle of "stout" for a tonic so it must have been quite a popular belief. Best thing is we were certainly not 18, or near it, and nobody seemed to think it strange to send us to buy these bottles, think it could have been called "Jubilee", and nobody refused to sell us it if we said that it was for Mrs.so&so. Don't think they would get away with it now!!