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Post by eric on Jun 21, 2009 20:22:44 GMT
So far I've heard of "The Granary" at Ingrow, Wheat St, Oat St, Bran St, etc, the "Birds Nest" or apparently it was known locally as "Dickie Bird Alley" Thrush St. Pheasant St Grouse St etc. and I'm sure I heard a name for Beech St, Elm St etc at Ingrow but it escapes me, is/was there anymore around town with colloquial names?
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Post by alumpot on Jun 21, 2009 20:29:35 GMT
The Jewel Box at Ingrow, Ruby Street, Pearl Street, Diamond Street. Beech , Elm etc were built to house workers at Robert Cloughs
David
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Post by fsharpminor on Jun 21, 2009 21:43:54 GMT
Off Parson St leading to Victoria Park are several birds. My grandparents lived at 8 Swallow St , next was I think Hawk St. Don't have a map in front of me right now to check the others as I'm in bed using my iPhone
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Post by Admin on Jun 21, 2009 22:24:36 GMT
I always thought that this area of Lawkholme was called "The Birdcage" :-)
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Post by fsharpminor on Jun 22, 2009 11:00:54 GMT
Just checked the full list of birds with nests off Parson Street:- Swallow, Pheasant, Hawk , Dove, Plover, Thrush, Owl, Quail, Grouse, Wren, Linnet and Nightingale. What a mixture, as long as they dont all sing at once !
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Post by danewiss on Jun 26, 2009 23:31:48 GMT
From a friend who used to live on Partridge Street is the following. From the Lawkholme Lane end of Parson Street Hi Derek...been ‘off site’ for a while.....however.... Plover ------------------P-------------Plover Jay ---------------------A-------------Jay Wren-------------------R-------------Wren Linnet -----------------S--------------Linnet Nightingale------------O--------------Nightingale Thrush ----------------N--------------Thrush Dove -----------------------------------Dove Grouse-----------------S--------------Nil ( Ward & Haggas) Partridge---------------T--------------Nil “ “ Nil ( Dan Mitchells)----R---------------Pheasant Nil ------------“ --------E---------------Hawk Compton --------------E--------------Swallow Austin------------------T --------------Quail Neville ---------------------------------Victoria Park Street ( across the bottom of Quail St. facing into the Park. Spruce----------------------------------Victoria Park View Hope this helps, JOAN
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Post by Mike Tebb on Jul 10, 2009 19:36:47 GMT
I agree Vale - there must be lots of streets out there with a story attached.
As a former resident of Colenso Grove at Stockbridge I would imagine that the name came from the town in South Africa - scene of one of the battles of the Boer War in 1899.
The town was apparently named after a John William Colenso, anglican bishop and a champion of the Zulu cause in the earlier South African conflict.
Now why that should be used for a street name in Keighley in about 1939 I would love to know.
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Post by eric on Jul 10, 2009 19:58:35 GMT
Well, I seem to recall seeing a picture of a detachment of men from keighley bravely marching off to fight in the Boer war, so hopefully, it was in memory of them
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Post by keighleyboy on Jul 16, 2009 12:07:08 GMT
.....and then there's Suresnes Road. I think it's something to do with the first World War, but don't know any more. Does anybody know the connection?
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Post by eric on Jul 16, 2009 20:11:09 GMT
There was an article in the Keighley News a few years ago, about a party of French Dignitaries who visited Keighley and I think they came from a place called Suresnes, near Paris, (I know that 'cos I've just Googled it!) and I think it was so named to honour their visit.
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Post by keighleyboy on Jul 17, 2009 15:29:11 GMT
There is Alice Street in town, and Foster Road and Rawling Street at Ingrow. But who were Alice, Foster and Rawling?
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Post by Mike Tebb on Jul 17, 2009 17:25:31 GMT
Regarding Suresnes Road - Keighley and Suresnes (a suburb of Paris) had a worker exchange program in the early 1900's in an attempt to understand one anothers way of life and create an 'entente cordiale'. Oh well - nice try eh! Lots of streets are named after individuals (usually first names) and the reason get lost over time. Probably many of them were children of the millowners who built the terraced streets. I recall that many of the streets in Saltaire were named after Titus Salt's children. There must be lots of interesting stories regarding street names - come on folks......
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Post by eric on Jul 17, 2009 20:50:26 GMT
The street names could well give a clue as to the age of the street, for instance, Wellington Street/Square will probably date back to Wellingtons defeat of the French at Waterloo (1815 I think) so the original street would be built in the next few years. Most of the other streets seem to be self explanatory, but Coney Lane springs to mind, but wasn't a Coney a type of rabbit?
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Post by Andy Wade on Jul 17, 2009 23:51:57 GMT
The street names could well give a clue as to the age of the street, for instance, Wellington Street/Square will probably date back to Wellingtons defeat of the French at Waterloo (1815 I think) so the original street would be built in the next few years. Most of the other streets seem to be self explanatory, but Coney Lane springs to mind, but wasn't a Coney a type of rabbit? Yes, it's another word for rabbit. Also, the fur of a rabbit is known as coney. You raise a very interesting point about street ages being relevant to their naming. It seems very plausible to me that they would name some streets to mark historic occasions. I can think of a few off the top of my head: Waterloo Road in Bingley. Mafeking Terrace in Bradford. Dunkirk Rise in Riddlesden. These all mark wartime events.
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Post by eric on Jul 18, 2009 6:27:50 GMT
With regards to the names Alice Street, Foster Road and Rawling Street, There was a Princess Alice born in 1901, whose father amongst other titles was the Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry, and there was a Fosters Mill at Denholme and a Cecil Godfrey Rawling, (b1870) a Soldier, Explorer and author who was killed at the Battle of Passchendale during the Great War. (The first and the last would appear to fit in the time scale of building) All we need now is origins for Goulbourne St, Heber St, Cromer St, Hardwick St, Padget St, Edensor Rd, etc. etc. etc.!!
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Post by angler on Jul 18, 2009 8:44:04 GMT
With regard to street names Clock View Street at Beechcliffe was named because workers at the Mill could see he clock on the Mill wall as they went to work The clock was there about 20 years ago but has now been removed Angler
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Post by eric on Jul 18, 2009 20:36:57 GMT
Interesting! Edensor is the closest village to Chatsworth House, where the Duke of Devonshire has his gaff!
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Post by keighleyboy on Jul 19, 2009 9:05:54 GMT
Yes, Eric. A lot of the Keighley street names are connected with the Devonshires - and I believe the last Duke, Andrew Cavendish was indeed buried at Edensor. Then there's HOLKER Street, CROMER Avenue, CARTMELL Road, CARK Road (where I was born), and of course CAVENDISH Street. All these names come from the Devonshire's Estates. And CHATSWORTH Street and HARTINGTON Street. I think the Marquess of Hartington is traditionally the son of the Duke of Devonshire. There's probably more if I were to delve a bit deeper. How did the Spencers come into it - did they marry into the Cavendish family?
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Post by maryb on Jul 19, 2009 17:24:06 GMT
John Spencer 1st earl Spencer had Georgina Spencer 1757-1806 married William Cavendish 5th Duke of Devonshire.
Maryb
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Post by kellytica on Jul 19, 2009 18:32:39 GMT
Goulborne Street, Parker Street & Starkie Street are all named after 19th century trustees of the Waddington Hospital Trust who owned the freehold to a lot of the land on & about South Street. Income for the hospital trust was gained from leasing land to others for building purposes. The Kings Head Keighley was built subject to a 998 year lease dated 12th May 1853 granted by Thomas Goulbourne, Thomas Parker & Le Gendre Nicholas Starkie (Waddington Trustees) & Mary Hargreaves leaseholder. The pub wasn't actually built until 1868 but a leasehold rental of £10.3.6d was paid annually. The pub was still liable for the lease rental in 2007. I know little of the Waddington Hospital & its trust; some details can be found here www.charity-commission.gov.uk but at least we have continuity through the Street names. I believe Starkie St was originally called Princess Street (Keighley Survey 1878)
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Post by fsharpminor on Jul 20, 2009 8:35:51 GMT
Thomas Parker had a worsted spinning company in Goulbourne Street. My late mother worked there when she first left school, about 1938, and then went back in the early 60's for quite a few years , to the same job in the wages Dept. I worked there doing odd jobs in my second summer vacation form 'Uni' in 1967. The owner then was Thomas's son, Billy Parker, who lived on Manor road in Utley. Not sure when it closed.
Betwen Goulbourne St and Oakworth Rd was Croft Street, my great grandma lived at no 8. until her death in mid 60's. Anyone know who Croft was ?
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Post by kellytica on Jul 20, 2009 9:04:58 GMT
I hadn't associated Parkers mill with the Waddington Trustees. It is possible this mill was owned by the same Parker family who were & still are based in the Clitheroe area and continue to be Trustees. Interestingly the middle name of the Thomas Parker in my earlier post was Edmundson another name associated with textile mills in Keighley and Thomas Goulborne was actually Thomas Goulborne Parker.
Waddington Hospital Trust Various Ground rents at Keighley 2008: Sunderland Street Works (Victoria Street) Sunderland Street and Parker Street with 6ft private road and plot in South Street 103,105 and 107 Kensington Street Kings Head Hotel Goulbourne Street and South Street Goulbourne Street works and allotments Otley Street and South Street South Street (Foundry and Office Block) 109/111 South Street Marley Street Ironworks 13/15 Heber Street 18/20/22 Marley Street Alkincote Street 51,53,55,57,59,61,63,65,67,69,71,73,75,77 Goulbourne Street 60 Victoria Road Garages, Marley Street and Sunderland Street 12a-15 Smitherds Street Part of former 73 Parker Street Marley Street/Smitherd Street
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Post by fsharpminor on Jul 20, 2009 12:57:32 GMT
I am interested that 60 Victoria Rd is there. The corner shop at the Goulbourne St/Victoria Rd junction is no 64 Victoria Rd. That was one of a group of four shops, (58,60,62,64), so No 60 was actually the third from the junction. I started school at Holycroft Infants in 1952, and my best mate (throughout all my school years) was Jim Hall who's parents(Ernest and Edna) had the newsagents at no 62. No 60 was a bakery belonging the (?)Emsley family. The corner one (64) was a greengrocers owned by the Elvins, later on by Arthur and Majorie Brooke, who were neighbours of ours , living at 57, Malsis Rd (we were No 51). No 58 Victoria Rd was I think a ladies hairdressers. Beyond No 58 was the large house that was the vicarage for St Peters Church (on a personal note I am sorry to say Jim passed away only last month, aged 62, we had kept in touch all that time)
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